Mesorat%20hashas for Zevachim 85:4

ר' שמעון אומר כל שאינו על המזבח החיצון כשלמים אין חייבין עליו משום פיגול:

What does he inform us? If that it does not involve liability for piggul, Surely we have learnt it: THESE ARE THE THINGS FOR WHICH ONE IS NOT LIABLE ON ACCOUNT OF PIGGUL: THE FISTFUL, THE INCENSE, THE FRANKINCENSE, THE PRIESTS MEAL-OFFERING, THE ANOINTED PRIEST'S MEAL-OFFERING, AND THE BLOOD? - Rather, [he informs us] that if it ascended [the altar], it does not descend. But we have learnt it: [Flesh] that is kept overnight, or that goes out [of its permitted boundaries], or which is unclean, or which was slaughtered [with the intention of being consumed] after time or without bounds, if it ascended [the altar], does not descend? - Rather, [he informs us] that if it was taken down [from the altar], it must be taken up [again]. But surely we have learnt: Just as it does not descend once it had ascended, so it does not ascend after having descended! - That [Ulla's teaching] is only when the fire [of the altar] has taken hold of it. But this too 'Ulla has already stated once? For 'Ulla said: They learnt this only where the fire had not taken hold of it; but if the fire had taken hold of it, it must go up [again]! - You might think that this holds good only of

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